I hope Microsoft fixed everything in this version as I’m getting a bit tired of installing all these Windows 7 releases :-) to be honest though is not the actual Windows installation as that takes only about a half an hour and it needs your input only on a couple of things, but installing all the other drivers and apps, and lastly to customize things as you prefer.
Probably because I rarely use computers for leisure and mostly for work or doing some coding for a hobby (some may find sad the idea of having a hobby same as your main occupation :-), I like my computers running quick with little visual effects, although luckily for me and my job, I do try to keep a balance between useful and pretty as much as possible when developing stuff. In this case, with the R2H I prefer it to be a little snappier rather than waiting for drop-down to come down nice and slow, anyways you get the idea. Some of the customisations include changing from Segoe UI font back to good old Tahoma 8pt (some of the windows I noticed keep using Segoe even after the change), removing the wallpaper, disabling ClearType (I usually like texts nice and crisp, except maybe for a few specific applications like Adobe Reader or in coding editors), setting the System Properties > Performance Options for best performance, except maybe for Show shadow under mouse pointer (ironically, I still keep this one...), Smooth edges on screen fonts (that’s the basic font smoothing) and Use visual styles on windows and buttons (I don’t use this one on XP, only on W7, that much I like the theme in W7 :-), setting up Process Explorer to startup minimized when logging on (like to keep an eye on the system) and some changes in Explorer, like showing all file extensions, displaying the full path in the titlebar, sorting by default by type and applying the settings to all folders, enabling single click to open items etc. Enough about me, back to Windows 7 RC...
Finishing the installation from a DVD-RW, you need to connect it to the Internet through the Ethernet cable and that should install about 6 updates: Atheros Wireless driver, AuthenTec finger-print driver - a nice addition Dave spotted earlier, Intel 915 chipset driver, ATK Input ACPI utility and a couple of IE8 related updates. There’s also an optional Realtek wired network driver, checking that box as well. 38 MB worth updates and a reboot later, we have a nice and slightly slow R2H running W7 :-) only messing, doing the above will make it snapier without much loss of the actual W7 experience.
Touch Screen
Working fine, it needs calibrating.
Graphics
The default drivers works fine, although I’ve noticed W7 installed Standard VGA Graphics adapter which scores a double 1.0 in Windows rating and I’ve also noticed some flickering in Google Chrome dialog windows and when running Mobility Center when it’s being drawn up, which is just as well, we are going to install the ASUS Intel Graphics driver for Vista v6.14.10.4764 (in Windows Vista SP1 compatibility mode). After rebooting, noticeably less flickering and scoring now 1.9 in desktop performance and same 1.0 in 3D – still no Halo3 on R2H :-)
Sound
Same as before, the output doesn’t switch automatically from headphones to speaker, install ASUS Audio driver for Vista v6.10.1.6030.
WebCam (Bison)
Not installed by default, detected as USB2.0 Camera, install ASUS drivers for Vista v6.32.0.04.2 (if you don’t have a Bison webcam user your Vista driver or download the appropriate one from vip.asus.com, they explain which driver to download based on hardware IDs).
Some may find interesting, Dave reported earlier he uses ASUS SmartLogon for face recognition for logging on in W7 (no download link just yet, google yourself for “ASUS SmartLogon download”).
Thumbstick
Same as before, install the ASUS Touchpad driver for Vista v9.1.5.0 for better sensitivity and click on push.
Wired network (Ethernet)
Works fine out of the box, there is a newer driver through Windows Update.
Wireless (Atheros)
Same as before, works fine with the default driver, the ASUS Wireless Console for Vista v2.0.8 needs though the ASUS Hotkey Utility v1.00.0012 to be able to enable/disable the device and to get the wireless hardware button working.
GPS
Works fine, use the Device Switch utility for Vista v1.0.0.1 to enable the device.
Fingerprint sensor
Driver is now delivered through Windows Update, go to Control Panel > Biometric Devices to enable and register your fingers.
ASUS Settings Center
Install ASUS Hotkey Utility v1.00.0012 then install ASUS Settings Center v1.6.7.115, then reboot or at least logoff and then log back in. Same as before, brightness and volume work ok, for resolution you need the ASUS Intel Graphics driver for Vista v6.14.10.4764.
Note: I couldn’t get the resolution to switch I changed output to Single Display: Notebook from the Intel Graphics Media control panel. The application flickers a lot when you click Ok / Apply, best to use the Enter key on the 15 second OK button otherwise clicking with the mouse it might not work and reverts back to previous settings.
Hibernation
I noticed Hibernation wasn’t available as an option until I installed most of the drivers above – probably one of them wasn’t fully supporting ACPI, I don’t know exactly which one… Resuming for hibernation is fast as in previous builds.
Final thoughts
Looking at Process Explorer > System Information, Windows 7 RC has pretty much the same memory footprint (with disk swap disabled, and default services, haven’t stopped any just yet, like for example the Print Spooler and other’s I’ve listed in original post in the performance tips section). The system feels unnoticeably slower, but that may be because I haven’t stopped any services just yet, nor uninstalled any features I don’t use or maybe it’s just me, or maybe it needs a defrag :-)
Haven’t had any problems, except for a message popped up twice about a “USB device not recognized”, but that may be specific to my setup, when I used it at my desk I connect everything through a hub, including a Thermaltake Mobilefan II, which probably doesn’t send any information back to Windows, just powers from the USB port.
Probably because I rarely use computers for leisure and mostly for work or doing some coding for a hobby (some may find sad the idea of having a hobby same as your main occupation :-), I like my computers running quick with little visual effects, although luckily for me and my job, I do try to keep a balance between useful and pretty as much as possible when developing stuff. In this case, with the R2H I prefer it to be a little snappier rather than waiting for drop-down to come down nice and slow, anyways you get the idea. Some of the customisations include changing from Segoe UI font back to good old Tahoma 8pt (some of the windows I noticed keep using Segoe even after the change), removing the wallpaper, disabling ClearType (I usually like texts nice and crisp, except maybe for a few specific applications like Adobe Reader or in coding editors), setting the System Properties > Performance Options for best performance, except maybe for Show shadow under mouse pointer (ironically, I still keep this one...), Smooth edges on screen fonts (that’s the basic font smoothing) and Use visual styles on windows and buttons (I don’t use this one on XP, only on W7, that much I like the theme in W7 :-), setting up Process Explorer to startup minimized when logging on (like to keep an eye on the system) and some changes in Explorer, like showing all file extensions, displaying the full path in the titlebar, sorting by default by type and applying the settings to all folders, enabling single click to open items etc. Enough about me, back to Windows 7 RC...
Finishing the installation from a DVD-RW, you need to connect it to the Internet through the Ethernet cable and that should install about 6 updates: Atheros Wireless driver, AuthenTec finger-print driver - a nice addition Dave spotted earlier, Intel 915 chipset driver, ATK Input ACPI utility and a couple of IE8 related updates. There’s also an optional Realtek wired network driver, checking that box as well. 38 MB worth updates and a reboot later, we have a nice and slightly slow R2H running W7 :-) only messing, doing the above will make it snapier without much loss of the actual W7 experience.
Touch Screen
Working fine, it needs calibrating.
Graphics
The default drivers works fine, although I’ve noticed W7 installed Standard VGA Graphics adapter which scores a double 1.0 in Windows rating and I’ve also noticed some flickering in Google Chrome dialog windows and when running Mobility Center when it’s being drawn up, which is just as well, we are going to install the ASUS Intel Graphics driver for Vista v6.14.10.4764 (in Windows Vista SP1 compatibility mode). After rebooting, noticeably less flickering and scoring now 1.9 in desktop performance and same 1.0 in 3D – still no Halo3 on R2H :-)
Sound
Same as before, the output doesn’t switch automatically from headphones to speaker, install ASUS Audio driver for Vista v6.10.1.6030.
WebCam (Bison)
Not installed by default, detected as USB2.0 Camera, install ASUS drivers for Vista v6.32.0.04.2 (if you don’t have a Bison webcam user your Vista driver or download the appropriate one from vip.asus.com, they explain which driver to download based on hardware IDs).
Some may find interesting, Dave reported earlier he uses ASUS SmartLogon for face recognition for logging on in W7 (no download link just yet, google yourself for “ASUS SmartLogon download”).
Thumbstick
Same as before, install the ASUS Touchpad driver for Vista v9.1.5.0 for better sensitivity and click on push.
Wired network (Ethernet)
Works fine out of the box, there is a newer driver through Windows Update.
Wireless (Atheros)
Same as before, works fine with the default driver, the ASUS Wireless Console for Vista v2.0.8 needs though the ASUS Hotkey Utility v1.00.0012 to be able to enable/disable the device and to get the wireless hardware button working.
GPS
Works fine, use the Device Switch utility for Vista v1.0.0.1 to enable the device.
Fingerprint sensor
Driver is now delivered through Windows Update, go to Control Panel > Biometric Devices to enable and register your fingers.
ASUS Settings Center
Install ASUS Hotkey Utility v1.00.0012 then install ASUS Settings Center v1.6.7.115, then reboot or at least logoff and then log back in. Same as before, brightness and volume work ok, for resolution you need the ASUS Intel Graphics driver for Vista v6.14.10.4764.
Note: I couldn’t get the resolution to switch I changed output to Single Display: Notebook from the Intel Graphics Media control panel. The application flickers a lot when you click Ok / Apply, best to use the Enter key on the 15 second OK button otherwise clicking with the mouse it might not work and reverts back to previous settings.
Hibernation
I noticed Hibernation wasn’t available as an option until I installed most of the drivers above – probably one of them wasn’t fully supporting ACPI, I don’t know exactly which one… Resuming for hibernation is fast as in previous builds.
Final thoughts
Looking at Process Explorer > System Information, Windows 7 RC has pretty much the same memory footprint (with disk swap disabled, and default services, haven’t stopped any just yet, like for example the Print Spooler and other’s I’ve listed in original post in the performance tips section). The system feels unnoticeably slower, but that may be because I haven’t stopped any services just yet, nor uninstalled any features I don’t use or maybe it’s just me, or maybe it needs a defrag :-)
Haven’t had any problems, except for a message popped up twice about a “USB device not recognized”, but that may be specific to my setup, when I used it at my desk I connect everything through a hub, including a Thermaltake Mobilefan II, which probably doesn’t send any information back to Windows, just powers from the USB port.
Dave will probably be happy with an "out of the box after update" functioning fingerprint reader :)
ReplyDeleteThanks for doing the effort of installing it again. I'm first going to install this release on my main system at home.
Actually he installed it first, made a couple of comments on the other post, he seemed happy enough with a small couple of problems, that I haven't tested before - the touchscreen still works although the "hold" button was on and something about the when shutting down in a large resolution, on next boot the desktop scrolls.
ReplyDeleteAh yeah...that's right.
ReplyDeleteSorry for forgetting that Dave!
I noticed that scrolling on build 7057 as well.
No probs Rudi :-)!
ReplyDeleteSorry Dan, I didn't see this post... thanks for the mention though!
Rudi, have you experienced the issue with changing the resolution, restarting and getting a scrolling desktop?
I'll suggest what you mentioned Dan about Hibernation mode. I've never used it since XP as it used to cause me no end of grief on other systems...
The Hold thing still is an issue, I just wish it would disable the touch screen... will try out some other apps...
Do either of you know whether I should be installing the ASUS Pen disc that comes with the R2H? On an ASUS build it's installed as standard, but does it do anything? I don't have a pen, only a touch screen stylus. Can you get the propper pen jobs for this machine? Do either of you two have it??
Dave,
ReplyDeleteThere's an INFoPen Utility for Vista, from vip.asus.com, didn't find much use at the time in XP and never used it later with Vista...
On the touchscreen issue, I would recommend posting something on vip.asus.com forums or even contacting support. I don't have Vista anymore to see if it worked there, it may be specific to W7 - I think we should run this first by ASUS and then maybe go report it to W7 dev.
InfoPen, that's the one. I got a disc for it but never had to use it as my Vista recovery disc installed it anyway... Did it actually do anything? Rudi, have you used it?
ReplyDeleteI didn't think ASUS would entertain the idea of helping as I normally get a reply from most manufacturers that they cannot support pre-release OS software...
The touch screen issue is unique to W7, as the hold button locks everything out in Vista. I'm thinking its a software issue. As with ASUS build OS all the buttons operate correctly, yet on clean MS installs ASUS software is required to use the Wifi/BT button, and also to get it to toggle correctly. Perhaps the hold button physically disables the hardware buttons which is why it works from clean install, but for display it was relying on an ASUS driver somewhere...?? Apologise if I'm rambling on... didn't have a lot of sleep!! :-)
The second issue with the resolution is something I had with Vista and now W7. I don't know if it was there with XP??..
Dave,
ReplyDeleteno, you're not rambling - I'm suspecting one of those ATK utilities / drivers, I haven't installed all of them, I don't even know what they all do... Might be worth a shot trying them on one by one from vip.asus.com
If the display issue happened in Vista as well, then ASUS might have a look into it, although a very slim chance to release a new driver me thinks... I don't see MS or Intel getting stuck into this, I suspect they usually rely on OEMs to push on these things, so pressure needs to go on ASUS, maybe build some on forums and say looks there is a lot of us, but again R2H may be out of software maintenance...
I'm somewhat dissapointed with the RC. (at least on the R2H) Much slower than the original beta, and there is a noticable delay when inking in Journal or OneNote...so much so that it becomes almost unusable. Didn't have that delay in the original beta or in XP. Guess it's time to start tweaking!
ReplyDeleteHi guys!
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry for not responding earlier. It's been very busy at work!
Next to that I've installed the RC on my desktop at home and I found a new bug somewhere. I'm not sure if it is specific to Windows 7 RC, but that is the OS where I experienced the problem.
As soon as I install "Microsoft Office Live Add-in" from the Windows Live install menu (same as the one you use for installing WLM2009) a specific website looks strange. It's www.weblogzwolle.nl. (If you browse to it you can see what it should look like.) Here you can see what it looked like on my machine: http://www.mijnalbum.nl/GroteFoto-EOXUSHBC.jpg
Yes on build 7057 I have experienced changing resolution, restarting will result in scrolling. In XP the system used to first revert back to 800x480 before shutting down. I guess on Windows 7 we'll have to do that ourselves. I'm not a big fan of the bigger resolutions on the R2H anyhow as it's making me sea-sick. :)
The hold key does block my touch screen. But if I put it back touch doesn't work anymore. It's not completely working perfect. I only use it when shutting down the system.
I don't use hibernation as it requires a lot of disk space.
As soon as I have some time left I'll install the RC as well.
Hmmm...I just noticed that fiddling around with the hold button temporarly froze my system :(
@Dave
ReplyDeleteI found it marginally slower as well than in previous builds, but once you do a little bit of tweaking it gets back to acceptable levels.
@Rudi
For the IE issue, go through the addons and maybe disable a few Live related (Tools > Manage Addons), maybe the rendering will get back to normal. Also might want to try the website in compatibility mode.
Finally, you can use this addon to report the problem:
http://tinyurl.com/ravbpo
Of course I already reported the problem :) The first response of Microsoft was:"Well, you're using Windows 7 and we don't support that as it is in bèta".
ReplyDeleteI found that very disappointing! I reinstalled Windows 7 (all other options such as reinstalling IE8, disabling all add ons, resetting internet options, compatibility mode failed) and found that this specific Microsoft Office Live add-in 1.3 was causing the problem.
I've mentioned this to Microsoft as well. I also mentioned that I was very disappointed in their first response.
Which team did you report the issue to, IE8?
ReplyDeleteWell, I wonder if the same issue happens with IE8 + XP or Vista, then they might listen to you.
Maybe also find a few forums where it makes sense to post the problem...
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/forums/default.mspx
I contacted customer support. I'm hoping they have their internal communications arranged so that my questions and remarks end up at the right desk!
ReplyDeleteI'v sent my remarks on how the problem can be solved and I expect a response on that today.
And I posted the problem and the workaround on the seven forums. http://www.sevenforums.com/
@ Dave - Hey matey, I've not noticed the speed difference from Beta to RC1, do you have any other applications that you've put on that may be reacting differently?
ReplyDelete@ Rudi - I do like the way that software developers tend to say "Sorry, no support as it's in Beta"... surely that's the time when the support is needed the most to get the end product right!!
He mentioned Journal and OneNote - it might be just because the system is swapping a lot, I've never used OneNote so I wouldn't know huch much memory is actually using, might be interesting to check the memory used/available when having the problems.
ReplyDeletejmdrizen & Dan,
ReplyDeleteNo other applications that I didn't have when running the original beta.
I've gone back and done most of the things Dan suggested in an earlier post to tweak the system and overall it's a little faster, but still the problem with inking in Journal and OneNote - as I'm writing, there's a delay before the letters show up. Interestingly enough, this delay doesn't seem to be present with the TIP. This delay was not present in the beta version.
Memory - I have 2GB in my system and memory holds just about constant while running various programs including OneNote and Journal while inking. From Task Manager:
Physical Memory:
Total: 2031
Cached: 992
Avail: 1464
Free: 534
Kernel Memory:
Paged: 99
Non: 20
Physical Memory hovers between 27 and 29%
And now a new problem... Every once in a while (and I can't see anything I've done to cause this to start, or anything that is consistantly happening when it occurs), I'll get a "USB Device Not Recognized" error, and the touch screen will stop working. Rebooting will fix the problem.
@jmdrizen: I'm a developer as well. If I release 3 modules of which 2 are ready and tested and 1 is the newly to be tested module I'm not going to whine if somebody finds a bug in the 2 modules that are ready. I'm not going to tell them that I cannot fix their issue, because 1 module is not already finished.
ReplyDeleteSometimes I also get the notification that a USB device is not recognized. It doesn't really cause problems for me.
@Dave
ReplyDeleteI see what you mean, just tried it on Windows Journal and I see the delay, although doesn't happen all the time. Might be worth posting to http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/category/w7itpro/
or http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2009/04/23/ink-input-and-tablet.aspx
@Rudi
In fairness, bigger companies have a different way of handling support and development, that we do in smaller companies. I usually take all bugs that arrive through various sources like helpline and even customer contact emails, but we've been recently taken over by a bigger company and I can see how they want to change that, to focus more on budgets and costs and all that stuff, that in the end it will make me stop doing this and concentrate on what they allow me to do fix and what not to...
I know...I work for a worldwide company with 170.000 employees.
ReplyDeleteI still try to be as much client-friendly as possible.
I see this being more and more important when I am promoted to levels where I have more client interaction and less programming to do.
Wow, that's not a small company at all, my mistake. Same here and I agree with you, it's just that sometimes it's down to personal social skills or even having a bad day :-)
ReplyDeleteWow...that's nice...NOT! :(
ReplyDeleteI mailed Microsoft that I would like to add some information to my previous issue. I also wanted just to complain, that I'm not happy with the fact that they immediately point to Windows 7 as being the cause of the problem.
An answer was to be expected within 1 working day. I didn't get an answer....instead I get a markt research E-mail... mentioning me, that the service request has been closed and asking me to fill out a survey on the customer service. Bett ya I'm going to fill out that survey!
Any one tried 7127 yet? Or know what the revision log is for the changes??
ReplyDeleteDave/Rudi, this might have a solution for your Office issues..?
Guys, I'm done installing builds for a while :-) next and last thing is to try W7 x64 on my Shuttle G33 and that's it for a couple of months :-) Don't get me wrong, I'm still interested if you guys try a version that improves certain things...
ReplyDeleteBtw, I don't know if you guys have subscribed to MS Exploring Windows, but apparently this is the place to post your W7 problems.
ReplyDeletehttp://tinyurl.com/7jq7ps
Pfff... Problems with my media center again. Running build 7100. I don't think I will be trying a new build soon.
ReplyDeleteI had the system on dual boot. Now Windows 7 returned an error after installing some updates. Tried to have it repaired...took ages...before it finished hard resetted the machine...
"Can't find partition" (something like that). So I guess I'm off installing Windows 7 again. I did save a backup of my boot stuff. Is there an easy way to put that back?
By the way: I don't have any Office issues anymore. It was just something I didn't really need.
Rudi,
ReplyDeleteyou could try restoring the BCD store using the W7 recovery command line, bcdedit /import see below.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc731662.aspx
That's pretty bad, there were a couple of test updates in the last few days, I don't see how those could've broken your boot... did you run the other OS lately?
ReplyDeleteI hope you get this post. Do you still have problems with high DPC usage.
ReplyDeleteI am struggle to fix this problem with Vista, Windows 7 Beta and now the RC. It has been with me for years and i have yet to solve the culprit for it.
Thanks for the info Dan. On the other hand I just reinstalled Windows 7. I got that down to 20-30 minutes now :)
ReplyDeleteI haven't run the other OS for a month now. (By the way, I also removed the other OS.)
One thing is for sure: Win7 definately is hard on your boot-stuff.
On the other hand perhaps I messed it up myself by giving it a hard reset while it said it was "repairing". I just wasn't in the mood to wait for today, see that things went wrong and have to install it again anyway.
@Edchick
ReplyDeleteTo be honest I haven't had much problems with W7, I notice high DPC usage say when transfering files through FTP, so I would blame de wireless driver really, maybe when it has to deal with lots of transfer packets.
@Rudi
Yeah I noticed the repairs may take a lot of time. Like I said I'd like to install W7 RC on my dev box, where I already have XP and I was reading up on the Windows 7 forums (http://tinyurl.com/ohg9x6) for all sorts of dual boot issues and there was a guy from Microsoft explaining it all, but I didn't bookmark the darn thread... It was about where the BCD store goes, system drive vs active partition and all that stuff and why it could break. Well, in fairness people have all sorts of disk configurations, IDE vs SATA, AHCI vs legacy, multiple drives, multiple partitions etc. I'm sure they will nail it down till it goes final, they've made a few changes between builds in that area...
Hi Dan...
ReplyDeleteIt's been a while, but I was wondering if somebody using a Asus R2H with Windows 7 is having the same experience as I am having. And what better website to turn to than this one? :)
Lately every now and then my touch screen stops responding. It seems as if it is having something to do with Windows Media player. If I log off/log on, put it to sleep and wake it up or restart the R2H everything is working again.
For the time being it is ok, I was just wondering if somebody had the same issue.
I can't wait until the 22nd of October! Then Windows 7 will be finally released! I have subscribed for an MSDN subscriptions account, so I can download a Windows 7 version.
Rudi,
ReplyDeleteIt only happened to me once or twice, but I'm not using Windows Media Player - I would search the Windows 7 forums to see if other people are having the same problem on other tablet PCs if not R2H.
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/w7itpro
I don't think the problem is media player related.
ReplyDeleteI've put it on the Windows 7 forums as well. Let's see what happens!
Anyway, I will probably be able to reinstall on the 6th or 7th of august since Windows 7 RTM will be available for MSDN subscriptions as of then.
Nice, good to know, I'm sure it will leak out eventually...
ReplyDeleteIt has already leaked :) Quite a lot in fact.
ReplyDeleteI think the problem with the non functioning touch screen is solved. I had installed a recommended but optional driver for the fingerprint scanner. I've uninstalled this now and haven't got the problem since. I will continue testing.
On the other hand the Asus T91 is available in the Netherlands. If it becomes available with GPS and 3G module, I might switch to that one.
@Rudi
ReplyDeleteThat's good news. Looks very good, good luck!
I have Windows 7 RTM. Hope to install it this weekend.
ReplyDeleteFurther I was able to download a copy of Microsoft Mappoint 2009. I'll give that a go as well.
Nice, lets us know how it works!
ReplyDeleteYeah, let us know Rudi.
ReplyDeleteHope you're both well!
Dave.
Basically it works the same as build 7057 (I didn't try the release candidate on the R2H, only on other systems.)
ReplyDeleteStill I need to uninstall the fingerprint reader drivers; otherwise the touch screen will stop working every once in a while.
And I am having some difficulty in synchronizing my HTC Touch Pro 2. But that is more a problem of Windows Mobile Device Center I think!
Hi guys...posted this on the Asus forum... Perhaps useful for others as well!
ReplyDelete"Hello,
I ran into a problem with my Asus R2H and I would like to share the solution with you.
I was running Windows 7 Release Candidate. And all of a sudden every once in a while my touch screen wasn't accepting touch input anymore. So, everything worked except for the touch!
After a reboot, log on/log off, sleep/wake up everything was fine again.
After experiencing this problem for a while and almost giving up on the R2H (because it is getting old for a notebook!) I remembered installing a Windows update for the fingerprint reader. I removed the fingerprint reader drivers and did not install them again and everything was fine! Never had a problem again!
Now, since I have an MSDN subscription, I already have a legal copy of Windows 7 RTM. This requires additional caution! The fingerprint reader is automatically installed! Removing the item from the list in the device manager or uninstalling the drivers will not be sufficient as they will be reinstalled automatically. Windows does this on the background, so one doesn't notice it! From the Device manager one shoud "Disable" the device.
I hope this helps other people that are experiencing this problem!
If you have any additional questions or remarks you can contact me at Rudi_Hendrix@hotmail.com
Best regards,
Rudi Hendrix"
Thanks Rudi - personally I don't use the fingerprint (disabled as well), which probably explains why I never had that problem). Actually I lost once the touch when resuming from Hibernate, luckily the thumbstick came to the rescue!
ReplyDeleteDan,
ReplyDeleteIs it an idea to start a new topic for Windows 7 RTM on Asus R2H? :)
The synchronizing with the Touch Pro 2 worked out in the end. There where just way too many items.
Further on the first occasion where I had the resolution to 1024x600 and restarted the screen required scrolling again, but on another occasion after the restart it came up correctly in 1024x600 again! I only noticed this when I was in the car, so I wasn't able to figure out how this exactly works. Further I don't do a lot in 1024x600, so I will not be running into this often.
I start to like my R2H more and more again!Perhaps the T91 isn't as interesting after all :)
One thing I still dislike in the Windows 7/R2H combination is the fact that no WDDM drivers are supported. Not that I really need the Aero Glass effect (however, it would be nice), but I dislike the fact that I'm stuck with the standard "grey" Windows 7 taskbar.
Perhaps there is a registry adjustment that can be made to "fool" the Asus into enabling the aero (glass) effects. The recommendation to purchase and install a new graphics card isn't getting me very far :(
I would guess that's the place where most R2H owners meet, it's a good idea. "grey" taskbar? to me it looks like a blue-metalic-silver kinda looking, I actually like it a bit, don't mind the transparency, I only like it to be a bit snapier on the graphics side, but I don't seem to get that from my Intel G33 either, so I'd say that must be something in the central UI part of OS. On the bright side, it seems be a little bit faster on the memory / thread management compared to XP, certan processes seem to startup / work slighly faster, even without Superfetch.
ReplyDeleteYeah it is silver-blue-metallic looking...that's what I meant ;)
ReplyDeleteI'm also discussing this issue on the Windows 7 forums. No one seems to have a real solution for it :(
I would just like to have some more colors. No need for glass effects at all!
That's a reasonable suggestion, but I'd say if that's not already in there it may be very hard to get changes to the UI model at this stage - it's worth pushing it, there may not be any solution, not to mention that most people probablt get Aero so there's probably little interest from the common user. Anyways, lets hope there's a registry setting for that :-)
ReplyDeletehttp://www.sevenforums.com/customization/20514-no-aero.html
ReplyDeleteThis is not really giving me the expected results or the results that I was hoping for!
I undid the procedure and my R2H is starting up again, but I wasn't too fond of this hickups!
Yeah I tried once one of those Aero enabler hacks and it locked W7 so I kinda gave up.
ReplyDeleteJust wondering if the the taskbar color may not be controlled by some setting in the .theme file...
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb773190(VS.85).aspx#visual_styles
Does anybody here use MSN on their R2H? Every now and then Live Messenger disconnects and connects again. I thought this was because my internet connection isn't that stable.
ReplyDeleteHowever a while ago I had the R2H on my network. While on my R2H MSN disconnected and reconnected again the MSN on my desktop was still connected.
I'm really getting tired of this. Anybody know a solution?
I don't know if it's R2H related - just had some strange issues this weekend with Windows Live Messenger on my work laptop (Windows XP), it just happened that I was connected to the person on TeamViewer and I saw her screen as well while talking on the voice. At times I was loosing the voice connection and appeared that the person signed off. I asked the person to logon again and was still not showing up to me. I had to logoff and logon myself to be able to reconnct the voice.
ReplyDeleteIt may have been some service problem rather than anything to do with your R2H.
This is something different I think. The problems I am experiencing are there for months. (Also with the build version of Windows 7 and XP). Just recently I got the idea that perhaps it is not the cell phone connection, but the R2H itself.
ReplyDeleteCouldn't say really Rudi, don't use MSN Messenger on R2H at all, and to be honest on none of the Windows 7 machines - I plan to install it this weekend on my work laptop though where I use WLM, let you know how it goes.
ReplyDeleteOn other machines it runs perfectly. So I'm really suspecting the R2H. On the other hand: it reconnects automatically... Would just be nice to figure out what it is. A few days ago, I didn't have the problem. I'm still trying to recreate what I was doing back then :)
ReplyDeleteRudi, I believe if you go into WLM Tools > Options > Connection (tab) > Advanced Settings (button) > Save a log of my server connections... (checkbox). There's also a View log button. Maybe it helps you trace the cause of it.
ReplyDeleteSometimes I really wonder why I don't think of that sort of stuff myself! :)
ReplyDeleteI'll look into it. Probably it'll tell me, that the internet connection got lost...but we'll see!
Hi all,
ReplyDeleteI'm posting this message in English because this makes it easiear for me to post it in
several forums.
I've been running Windows 7 RTM on my Asus R2H now for quite a while and I'm very happy with
this new OS! The Asus is really running pretty smooth with it!
However, there are a few things that I still would like to fix. I'm posting them spread over
several items.
First there is an audio problem. When playing music at the end of a song there are some
glitches. This is a typical Windows media player 12/Windows 7 issue. Has been there during
all the previous builds. A solution is available as well.
"Right click on speaker in system notification area
Select playback devices
In playback tab double click speakers/headphones
In enhancements tab check 'Disable all enhancements'
"
For more information you can visit:
http://www.vistax64.com/vista-music-pictures-video/54075-wmp-laggy-music-long-start-time.htm
l (Strange enough I found the solution in a Vista forum :))
However, the option "Disable all enhancements" generally is only available after installing
specific audio drivers. When using the R2H Vista drivers from the Vista drivers CD one does
not have this option. The question is: is there another way to solve this? And otherwise:
can other (Windows 7) drivers be expected for the Asus R2H? The sound card on board is a
SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio by Analog Devices.
Thanks in advance!
On my Asus R2H I use tethering from my Windows Mobile phone to have internet connectivity. I have been doing this on the T-Mobile network with the following phones: T-Mobile MDA Pro, T-Mobile MDA Vario III and a HTC Touch Pro 2.
ReplyDeleteI have created the internet connection sharing connection both through bluetooth and trough the USB cable.
This works in most cases. But every now and then I see MSN messenger (all versions that I have been running) on both Windows XP and Windows 7 being disconnected and reconnecting again. So, every now and then either the internet connection or the network connection between my Asus R2H and the mobile phone is closed. Now, I have alway "blamed" T-Mobile for this. But recently I saw this issue as well while I had my R2H connected to my home network through wireless as well as through a cable. Other computers on the network were not experiencing problems at the same time.
Does somebody have an idea on what may be wrong? I'm suspecting the Asus to just shut down the connection and I have no clue to why this would be!
All possible help would be very much appreciated!
Dan, I did enable the logging of WLM, but I wasn't able to find a relation between the disconnecting and something in the logging.
ReplyDeleteRudi,
ReplyDeleteI don't know what to say, there's a new version coming out soon maybe try with that one, see this.
http://messengersays.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!5B410F7FD930829E!82557.entry?sa=5897890
Perhaps it IS Windows Live messenger... I've installed Office Communicator on the R2H as well now and it has been stable for quite a while.
ReplyDeleteI also updated WLM to this latest version you linked to. Same result for that. Would be really comforting if this is a WLM problem instead of a "faulty" device!
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
ReplyDeleteIt really seems to be MSN on the R2H which gives problems. The exact same MSN version on other systems has never resulted (and still doesn't result) in any issues.
Now I'm using Pidgin and the first test results look promissing!
I was wondering if other people use the R2H as well to stay signed in for longer period and if that works without automatic unwanted sign outs. I can ask this on other forums, but all I see is a lot of people reading the thread and nobody responding to it.
Rudi, R2H has a pewny CPU and MSN Live could be too much to handle, you could use tools like Process Explorer and keep it in the tray to see the CPU history, it might disconnect when CPU goes high for a while.
ReplyDeletePidgin might be easier on the resources, cause in the end, it uses the same servers as Live Messenger, the presentation is different.
Again a very good suggestion!
ReplyDeletePidgin also had no connection for a few times now today. But fortunately the message here is something different. Here it says that the server cannot be reached.
Also might be worth using TcpView from Sysinternals, maybe have a look at the status of those connections when it disconnects. Try maybe pinging those IPs...
ReplyDeleteRudi,
ReplyDeleteDid you find any further information around WLM? l am able to connect with my normal wifi connection, but when teather using my rooted T-Mobile branded HTC Dream (G1) it refuses to connect. I can connect to the web, but can't get passed the sign in with Messenger.
Also, have you been able to find out more about the resolution, and a way to stop it scrolling, or reset it automatically at power down? Ideally, would like it to stay in an X by 600 resolution and not scroll ever!
I finally get round to re-installing the latest release of W7, and must say I am LOVING IT! The Ink feature is picking up my messy hand writing perfectly!
Is there any way I can get the GPS setup to work on load without having to run the switch application?
Hope you are all well!
Dave.
@Dave
ReplyDeleteI think Bogdan's GPS switch tool is what you need... http://tinyurl.com/yeyl4x7
Dan,
ReplyDeleteCheers for that link, looking at it now...
Dont suppose you know anything further about the resolution issue?
Also, I'm looking for a good quality case which can hold the R2H, a portable DVD drive, and other accessories for it... l found this but wonder if anyone had any other suggestions...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400071602560&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
All the best!
@Dave
ReplyDeleteI'm afraid the resolution issue might have to do something with the ASUS driver, written and tested for Vista...
The bag looks nice, a lot of pockets, looks much better than my backpack :-)
Dan,
ReplyDeleteYeah, think I'll go for that...
I'm looking for other gadgets and gizmo things to go with it now.. lol... Got the DVD Drive, USB TV Stick, G1 for Tethered Internet... what next.... lol
Cheers for that forum link, downloaded the app, it's a shame that forum didn't really take off...
My Problems in Windows 7 and R2H
ReplyDelete1- Network Wireless Doesn't work
2- Fingerprint reader Doesn't work
3- Asus security center Doesn't work
4- Tablet Pen function stopped working
5- USB 2 function stopped working
Alireza,
ReplyDeleteRe your points... hope the following helps...
1) Network wireless - The driver isn't native to Windows 7 installation... You need to connect the computer to the internet to get it from Windows Update... I connect via the RJ45 port on the side, once connected via lead you'll be able to get drivers for the wlan from there...
2-5) If you see the previous post comments from DanDar3 he explains how to get Windows 7 up and running... all these are covered there...
Any issues further, message back dude...
Dave.
@Alireza
ReplyDeleteAs Dave suggested, connect your R2H through the Ethernet cable and run Windows Update, that should install a few things, one of them being the Wireless driver and it should also suggest installing the Fingerprint driver as well, maybe the video driver as well.
You don't need ASUS Security Center anymore, the fingerprint sensor is supported under a new Windows 7 biometrics framework. Maybe read the other posts in the R2H and Windows 7 category.
Thank you for your help
ReplyDeleteA bit late into the party, but my R2H keeps going on and on... I have it since 2006 and it is still working fine. Never had to format it. I thought that maybe it was time to upgrade it to Win 7 and your post & comments have been very helpful: I installed a 2Gb memory card, it works fine with it; I had "Spanish" as the installation language and couldn't find the "Biometric devices." Since I installed Win 7 Ultimate, I switched to English and the "Biometric devices" appeared. So the fingerprint login is working fine now.
ReplyDeleteTwo years ago I decided that when the R2H fails, I'll go for a new tablet --2 years later and I'm still wondering when is it going to fail. It's a great product.
Thanks again